Ricki Lake from the Business of Being Born: Pain & Nudity
Posted by admin in Network Marketing Saturday, 19 February 2011 20:01 25 Comments
CW11 interview with Ricki Lake in her home birth video
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labours in Great Britain are attended by MIDWIVES. not OBGYNs and I can tell you most women here would be astounded by your arrogance. I don’t know how midwives in your country are trained but in ours, they are trained to the highest standard. Specifically trained to deliver babies. It is their job. if the only difference for births in both our countries is that Obgyns deliver in yours and midwives deliver in ours but you have a higher mortality rate… what does that tell you.
@DrSandmann
Your arrogance astounds me. So your point is that every OB practice that employs CNMs, every hospital and birth center that has them on staff, every industrialized nation with better mortality and morbidity statistics that advocates for midwifery care in birth, are all morons? You make me giggle
“Tonight, the roll of GOD will be played by DrSandmann”. Jesus help us all…
Then again, you must be right. You use technical terms like “moron” when you don’t have a good debate. lol
@DrSandmann
Your arrogance astounds me. So your point is that every OB practice that employs CNMs, every hospital and birth center that has them on staff, every industrialized nation with better mortality and morbidity statistics that advocates for midwifery care in birth, are all morons? You make me giggle
“Tonight, the roll of GOD will be played by DrSandmann”. Jesus help us all…
Then again, you must be right. You use technical terms like “moron” when you don’t have a good debate. lol
@Curllyq
And furthermore, note the word “cost effective”. That’s a euphemism for “cheap”. I don’t know about you, but if it were my child, I’d want to hire the most highly-trained person to deliver a baby, regardless of the cost.
@Curllyq
Yes. You are a moron. Here’s why. A “normal pregnancy” and “normal childbirth” could be attended by a chimpanzee and still result in a healthy birth. It takes a physician to properly identify ALL pregnancy complications and properly manage them. A midwife, with her 2 years of midwife training (compared to the OBGYN’s 8 years of training), is not equipped to do so. They are working with a much narrower knowledge base than an OB. And that can be problematic.
@DrSandmann
lol yeah…me and the WHO. We are the ignorant ones…
“The World Heath Organization (WHO) states that the
midwife is the most appropriate and cost-effective
healthcare provider to be assigned to the care of women
during normal pregnancy and normal birth, including risk
assessment and the recognition of complications.”
And you call ME the moron! lol
@Curllyq
You’re the one advocating that pregnancies be handled by nurses rather than physicians, and you call me ignorant?
vacationing in JA right now and hardly remember this but… All of this is about sharing personal stories incl Ricki and this documentary. And we all can find ‘research’ to back our points. Sharing is not the issue as long as ur not trying to convince others that ur way is the only right way. Have YOUR baby and deliver it YOUR way bc only YOU will deal with the outcome. Who is anyone to try and convince or prove somebody wrong for this very personal choice? Just silly..
@theonlythai
lol and everyone knows that anecdotal evidence from one hospital employee is better than statistics…*barf* So if I just site a few of the cases where women ended up with c-sections because they were induced out of convenience and it didn’t work, I get to cancel out the couple homebirths-gone-bad that you site…right? Lordie…when will people learn that your personal stories don’t cancel out years of research?
I don’t have time to debate with someone who can’t do it civilly. I’m sure you will think you’ve some how “won” but being an asshole is far some winning. Congratulations, no one is listening to your arguments since you don’t have one! You obviously have some major life issues and I’m truly sorry for that. Going through life with such hate and ignorance is hard. Good luck
@DrSandmann
There you go again. You can’t provide any evidence, you just call names and use obscenities. My midwife only intervenes when necessary. She doesn’t induce for convenience, she doesn’t use PIT because I’ve been in labor for *gasp* 8 hours without progression, she doesn’t cut episiotomies, she doesn’t use Cytotec even though the FDA and the manufacturer have been campaigning against it for years.
@Curllyq
I could spend the rest of my life trying to find those “statistics” and not succeed. They don’t exist. Why don’t you post some for me…and let me examine the research articles, and see if your minimally-educated brain has interpreted the results properly.
@Curllyq
Excuse me, Curllyq, but don’t give me that “midwives know more about natural childbirth bullshit”. You think these home-birth midwives waltz in with nothing but a towel and a bowl of warm water? They use medical interventions too. The difference, however, is that OBGYNs know a hell of a lot more.
And for your assertion that OBGYNs are overkill, that’s just plain fucking stupid. Before modern medicine, childbirth was THE BIGGEST killer of women. Educate yourself, you moron.
@DrSandmann
And yet, the midwife has more training in attending natural, vaginal birth than the OBGYN does. Medical school is about pathology and spends little time on how to step back and just let birth happen. Whereas midwifery school is ONLY about attending birth. Hiring an OB to attend a birth in case something comes up is like hiring a pediatrician to babysit, or a heart surgeon to perform a yearly physical, or a brain surgeon for a head ache. Most women don’t need the different skillset.
@DrSandmann
wow…I can’t believe a “doctor” would talk with such hate and low-class:( Just goes to show…medical school doesn’t teach you everything. But maybe calling names makes you feel superior…here I thought the medical degree would have been enough…
@pokerboobs
Well, there you go. Your one anecdote of your fat slob of a daughter is all the proof you need that midwives are the way to go, right? Moron.
@Curllyq
That is an absolutely atrocious statement. Saying that the only difference between an OB and a nurse-midwife is “surgical skills” is like saying the difference between a Ferrari and a Toyota is the engine. A nurse-midwife has literally less than half the training of an obstetrician-gynecologist. The differences between the two go way beyond surgical skills. The OBGYN is a physician. The midwife is a nurse. That has many, many implications as to the differences in skillset.
damn i had this big crush on rikki lake back in the day . i’d always watch her show before the NBA finals in the 90s. GORGEOUS WOMAN SHE IS AND WAS
@DrSandmann Really? You’ve been through midwifer school like I have? Doubt it…the difference between a midwife and an OB is surgical skills. A midwife is taught to know when surgical skills of an OB are needed. The midwives I know were taught to do everything else.
Saying it’s false doesn’t make it so
To those who criticize homebirth or just don’t understand it. Ignorance is a lack of knowledge. I have seen this in many ways. I have an 8 yr. old whom was born in the hospital that has ADHD, SPD, and autism. I also have a 4 yr. old whom was born at home whom is completely healthy. Two completely different experiences. Everything they talk about in this video is very true! I lost trust in this country for their medical, food, & drug practices. To the people: Educate yourself on these issues.
@DrSandmann obviously you know it all! Good for you! Im actually am currently studying to become a midwife & have had 3 babies with ONLY the assistance of a midwife (like women have been doing it for thousands of years!) … so Im glad there are a “morons” like Rikki Lake in this world to embrace a more natural birth idea.
@passmethechronic your a racist ASS!
@pokerboobs – AND……hopefully a diet followed after that! You write as if being obese is the most natural thing in the world. Come on! If your daughter was obese then if she doesn’t learn to make nutritious food choices then her child will grow up to be obese as well.
Learn about food and how it fuels your body because it would be silly for your daughter to die before she sees her child grow up. There are just too many people nowadays behaving as if being fat is a “right.”
fuck ricki lake that lying phony JEW
This video is absolute bullshit!
The difference between midwives and OBGYNs is not simply “they don’t do surgery”.
Midwives are not physicians. They are not trained to make diagnoses. They are not trained to handle anything but the most minor complications. They are not trained to provide medical or surgical management of complications associated with pregnancy and parturition.
Rikki Lake is a fucking moron. (That much was apparent back when she had that trashy talk-show).